Daniel E. Twedt
Studied at John Hopkins University
Studied at National Academy of Sports Medicine (NASM)
DT: I often identify as Geo-Libertarian and an e-democracy advocate (www.democracy.earth).
JE: Being a minister, could you start a permaculture community… and not have to pay property tax? You could charge residents a land tax instead…
DT: True. I’m going to be filing for a Religious Non-Profit here in California this year. Land Trusts can circumvent Jarvis-Gann 1% property tax limits apparently.
JE: Good idea! I don’t know about California. You have to negotiate with some counties…
DT: Community Land Trusts are a recognized thing AFAIK.
JE: What is the netork party you were talking about?
DT: They vote according to the e-Democracy outcomes. Pirate Party does the same thing, also 5 star movement.
JE: E democracy outcomes?
DT: Democracy.earth or decidim.org; just follow the popular will on votes for issues
JE: I will check it out. What do they do if I disagree?
DT: Recall, vote out, breach of contract?
JE: Is that three things? Can I stand aside?
DT: I guess any or all would be options. Withdraw endorsement? No pressure. I just want to have a decent looking list there.
JE: “You guys do what you want… but no thanks.” That is what I mean by stand aside… Quaker thing.
JE: That seems more user friendly. The word “Democracy” pushes buttons for me… I think concensus makes a better paradigm
DT: It can have dangerous downsides
DT: I think it can be reformed in the consensus direction too. decidim.org
JE: Oh, Democracy can be reformed? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consensus_democracy#:~:text=Consensus%20democracy%20is%20the%20application,of%20legislation%20in%20a%20democracy.
DT: If the user base is educated… if not, watch out…
JE: De Tocqueville felt Democracy could be a learning process.
JE: This looks good too…
DT: I don’t think the two are mutually exclusive
JE: I am interested in your ideas of the use of religious or non-profits to forward freedom…
DT: I think it may be a really powerful bit of legal judo…
JE: Yes, me too; and you were talking about “land”? Trusts?
DT: Probably “Community Land Trusts” for Intentional Communities with Religious Non Profit Organizational Protections
JE: You familiar with FIC? https://www.ic.org/ They might have the legal expertease. Have you lived in comunnity before
DT: Oh in an IC? Rental houses with friends a couple times.
JE: I think it might be fun. If I ever wanted to disapear I would go to a Catholic Worker community.
DT: Hundreds of those and good folks I understand. if civil war breaks out…
JE: Can I still become a Universal Life Church minister?
DT: Sure, instant ordination by decree.
DT: I’ve actually presided at a funeral with it once.
DT: Beats years at Divinity Schools
JE: My concern with the ULC… is that …. it seems kind of scammy
DT: Yeah I think they were more sincere back in 1980 maybe. Bahai faith people meet in houses too.
JE: I heard the most libertarian religion is hinduism. Are you libertarian?
DT: On the spectrum at least! Some interpret this verse as a slam against building churches: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_7:9
JE: “Or what man is there of you, whom if his son ask bread, will he give him a stone?”
Does all the libertarian talk in the group bother you?
DT: No. I’ve been lot’s of different flavors of libertarian over the years.
JE: Good, would hate to alienate you.
DT: lol. that’s MY job usually!
JE: Alieanting people? lol
DT: Gives me a joke idea….Q: What did one hungry alien say to the other hungry alien. A: “Do think if we land this thing and get out we’ll end up alieneating any people?”
JE: Alien-eating! Hehe!